Zaishen Chest? - Guild Wars Forums

ammad2006 · Nov 04, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58

Is it worth paying 5k for a Zaishen Key to open the Chest? I am talking in terms of profit, not the Title. How much chance do I have of getting an item over 5k?

White Lies · Nov 04, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Low in my experience.
I havnt got any number for you though :s

~Lies

komma · Nov 04, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06

hope you like firewaters and creme brulees.

*Darcy* · Nov 04, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17

The chance of making a profit off a key is very slight. Here are the links to the wiki page on the chest http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaishen_Chest

and on the drop research http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaishen_Chest/Drop_rate

Remember that ArenaNet didn't set a price for the Zaishen key, the player community did.

dilan155 · Nov 04, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

nope, if you got lots of money and can afford thousands of them OR your very goddamn lucky your not gonna return any profit. should you be able to buy that many then there is a slightly small chance youll get something worth your money.

wind fire and ice · Nov 04, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

I have used over 300 keys,i have gotten two drops over 5k.
R10 command amethyst aegis(before vs farm,when they were worth somthing)
and a r10 moti dragonic aegis.
Most every thing else was really bad golds or firewater.

take_me · Nov 04, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Unless you have too much money, or simply don't know what to do with it, open the chest.
If you are trying to make more money, the ZChest is not your way to go.

Of course there are people who get lucky, use 1 key and get an Everlasting or a Crystalline, but that chance is lower than 1%... so my advice is: don't do it^^

Bobulation · Nov 04, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

I've used 350 keys and the only thing valuable that i have gotten is a R9 Mursaat hammer. You don't sound like the person with loads and loads of money, so i would say don't waste your money on the keys, because you will most likely lose a lot.

Groovy Phoenix · Nov 04, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37

I have to agree, Z keys for profit? No.

I usually will run my ranger through and get 5k balt factions and trade them for keys as well as take guesses, I'd say I've traded around 200 keys maybe? and have gotten just a few items.

money wise, buying a key isn't worth it the odds are not good on great drops, and most times you do wind up with creme brule and firewater (wish they would take that crap OUT!!!)

Overall, since I don't buy the keys I don't mind but I usually wind up ID'ing then salvaging the item, somtimes I will get a good mod, but usually its garbage drops.

I don't do it for the drops I do it for the title.

B A T M A N · Nov 04, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

I'm probably a rare case, but when i was going for rank1 i got an everlasting trapdoor tonic and sold it for 2 armbraces+60e. So i actually made a huge profit, but no more z-keys for me i'm done lol.

kupp · Nov 04, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Zkeys for profit? Yes! That is if your selling them... Oh wait, you want the chest, nvm don't bother. The drop rate for anything valuable is ridiculously low, save your cash, and instead of buying them, get them trough balthazar factions and sell them, it's a good money maker there. The chest, isn't.

Btw you can watch people going mad over wasting fortunes to get nothing in return, in this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10228998

FengShuiDove · Nov 04, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

I'm more than likely an incredibly rare case... I've made more than lost from the chest. All in this last month too, as I got incredibly lucky and landed two Everlasting Skeletonics and today a Celestial Compass. Still, by the time I get to r3, I bet I will have negated all profit.

Zaishen Chest is an incredibly fun thing to do when you're done or mostly done with the "money-spending" phase of character development. I'm almost completely done gathering everything I need/want, so money is a bit of a side issue now. If you're still needing to get some elite armors or wanting some prestigious weapons, I don't suggest it.

MagmaRed · Nov 04, 2008, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Analogy:

If you can make money to pay your monthly bills (food, electric, phone, gas, insurance, etc.) by playing the lottery, then you can make money in GW by buying Z-keys.

crazybanshee · Nov 05, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

I'm at r3 zaishen, and the best thing I ever got out of the chest was a beetle tonic, which is what, 3k? Most of the items I got were worth less than 500g.

Sun Fired Blank · Nov 07, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

I'm Zaishen Rank 6 with 1,382 keys used. I estimate the value of a key to be about 1,000 - 1,500 gold.

Issac · Nov 07, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

You'll have better luck just selling the keys, trust me.

Nov 04, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58	#1
ammad2006 Banned Join Date: Aug 2008	Zaishen Chest? Is it worth paying 5k for a Zaishen Key to open the Chest? I am talking in terms of profit, not the Title. How much chance do I have of getting an item over 5k?

Nov 04, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17	#4
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	The chance of making a profit off a key is very slight. Here are the links to the wiki page on the chest http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaishen_Chest and on the drop research http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaishen_Chest/Drop_rate Remember that ArenaNet didn't set a price for the Zaishen key, the player community did. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Nov 04, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#9
Groovy Phoenix Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Syndicate of Loafers [SOL] Profession: W/R	Z Keys for Profit... I have to agree, Z keys for profit? No. I usually will run my ranger through and get 5k balt factions and trade them for keys as well as take guesses, I'd say I've traded around 200 keys maybe? and have gotten just a few items. money wise, buying a key isn't worth it the odds are not good on great drops, and most times you do wind up with creme brule and firewater (wish they would take that crap OUT!!!) Overall, since I don't buy the keys I don't mind but I usually wind up ID'ing then salvaging the item, somtimes I will get a good mod, but usually its garbage drops. I don't do it for the drops I do it for the title.

Nov 04, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13	#10
B A T M A N Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2008 Profession: A/	ZChest I'm probably a rare case, but when i was going for rank1 i got an everlasting trapdoor tonic and sold it for 2 armbraces+60e. So i actually made a huge profit, but no more z-keys for me i'm done lol.

Nov 04, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16	#11
kupp Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Shiverpeaks Guild: [KISS] Profession: W/	Zkeys for profit? Yes! That is if your selling them... Oh wait, you want the chest, nvm don't bother. The drop rate for anything valuable is ridiculously low, save your cash, and instead of buying them, get them trough balthazar factions and sell them, it's a good money maker there. The chest, isn't. Btw you can watch people going mad over wasting fortunes to get nothing in return, in this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10228998 Last edited by kupp; Nov 04, 2008 at 06:18 PM // 18:18..

Nov 04, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02	#2
White Lies Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2007	Low in my experience. I havnt got any number for you though :s ~Lies

Nov 04, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06	#3
komma Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: None Profession: N/	hope you like firewaters and creme brulees.

Nov 04, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00	#5
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	nope, if you got lots of money and can afford thousands of them OR your very goddamn lucky your not gonna return any profit. should you be able to buy that many then there is a slightly small chance youll get something worth your money.

Nov 04, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02	#6
wind fire and ice Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: There Guild: [ToA]	I have used over 300 keys,i have gotten two drops over 5k. R10 command amethyst aegis(before vs farm,when they were worth somthing) and a r10 moti dragonic aegis. Most every thing else was really bad golds or firewater.

Nov 04, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08	#7
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	Unless you have too much money, or simply don't know what to do with it, open the chest. If you are trying to make more money, the ZChest is not your way to go. Of course there are people who get lucky, use 1 key and get an Everlasting or a Crystalline, but that chance is lower than 1%... so my advice is: don't do it^^

Nov 04, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31	#8
Bobulation Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Profession: W/Mo	I've used 350 keys and the only thing valuable that i have gotten is a R9 Mursaat hammer. You don't sound like the person with loads and loads of money, so i would say don't waste your money on the keys, because you will most likely lose a lot.

Nov 04, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#12
FengShuiDove Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] Profession: A/	I'm more than likely an incredibly rare case... I've made more than lost from the chest. All in this last month too, as I got incredibly lucky and landed two Everlasting Skeletonics and today a Celestial Compass. Still, by the time I get to r3, I bet I will have negated all profit. Zaishen Chest is an incredibly fun thing to do when you're done or mostly done with the "money-spending" phase of character development. I'm almost completely done gathering everything I need/want, so money is a bit of a side issue now. If you're still needing to get some elite armors or wanting some prestigious weapons, I don't suggest it.

Nov 04, 2008, 09:30 PM // 21:30	#13
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Analogy: If you can make money to pay your monthly bills (food, electric, phone, gas, insurance, etc.) by playing the lottery, then you can make money in GW by buying Z-keys.

Nov 05, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28	#14
crazybanshee Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Look out! Profession: E/	I'm at r3 zaishen, and the best thing I ever got out of the chest was a beetle tonic, which is what, 3k? Most of the items I got were worth less than 500g.

Nov 07, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42	#15
Sun Fired Blank Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2007	I'm Zaishen Rank 6 with 1,382 keys used. I estimate the value of a key to be about 1,000 - 1,500 gold.

Nov 07, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49	#16
Issac Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earthrealm Profession: W/A	You'll have better luck just selling the keys, trust me.